Just got back from visiting Skeezer, Texas.
Thanks to him for having me and helping pay for the trip out.
FuzzyGeff was there (still is in fact) so we hung out and chewed the fat serious.
I had a great time.
Sure is a long dang drive though. Took 17:40 hours to get out there and 17:00 to get back. Overnighting in Biloxi might be the way to do it.
Did some shooting out there. My Russian Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 doesn't shoot near as nice as the Polish Mosin-Nagant M-44. Which is odd because the M-44 is a LOT shorter.
Geff got to renew his friendship with Weatherby.
Lots of outstanding food in Texas. Fuddruckers is about the best burger I have had in years. And the "fast food" bar-b-que is way better than most places here. Of course, Texas has excellent Tex-Mex.
Tried to go see the Steve Jackson Games compound! We started early and
FNORD
Wow! That was sure fun! As you can read, we had a great time!
29 December 2006
19 December 2006
Sidebar
In my rantings you might think that I am a frothing Muslim hater. Nope. My problem with Muslims is pretty much the same problem I have with my own Government, they won't let me live my life the way I want to.
Catholics leave me alone.
The Mormons leave me alone, now.
Jehovah's Witnesses don't leave me alone, but they take no for an answer.
The list goes on.
I also come across as a raging republican sometimes. They are on the correct side of the gun debate, most of the time.
Gimme a Democrat who will lower taxes, promote gun ownership and not endorse guilt-racism and I will be a supporter!
I can usually get all three of those from a Republican.
Where I usually depart from the Democrats, aside from the gun thing, is I am also not a Socialist. Socialism doesn't work and variations on the Socialism theme have killed too many innocent people to trust it.
The religion-politics thing comes up again with "Social-Conservatives" this seems to be the new code word for "Right Wing Ultra Christian" now. As I allude in my tirades against Islam, I have no desire to live under a theocracy!
Not a single God has come forth to me with a revelation that convinces me that they are the one true God and that I should adhere to Their decrees. And according to the Holy Books of many of them, God made me this way, knows what it would take to get me on the team and doesn't. With that logic in place, the best I can come up with, IF the Christians are correct, is that God wants me this way for some inscrutable God reason. Who am I to thwart the Will Of God by believing?
The Republicans who cuddle up to the religious right piss me off. And it's not just them, show me a President who didn't do the Sunday church thing. Even Clinton did church on Sunday. Devout Christians don't let (or order) interns give them hummers under their desks, so...
The religious right wants to take away choices from me. For all I know, sucking cock and taking it up the ass is glorious fun. I don't know because I'm not gay. My gay friends just call it, "sex". Wanna bet it's not really all that different from the hetero experience? One huge difference though, can't "go forth and multiply" doing strictly gay sex. I'm betting this is the core of the issue. And the Leviticus warning about men and boys is about pederasty, not homosexuals. Read your book! I'm nearly an atheist and I have.
Religion is also how we got sin taxes and it's certainly what got Prohibition rolling. Try to remember that there were people trying to get tobacco banned long before we knew much about the harmful effects. But it's WRONG, people enjoy it and we are forbidden it by our imaginary friend so it must be made illegal!
Catholics leave me alone.
The Mormons leave me alone, now.
Jehovah's Witnesses don't leave me alone, but they take no for an answer.
The list goes on.
I also come across as a raging republican sometimes. They are on the correct side of the gun debate, most of the time.
Gimme a Democrat who will lower taxes, promote gun ownership and not endorse guilt-racism and I will be a supporter!
I can usually get all three of those from a Republican.
Where I usually depart from the Democrats, aside from the gun thing, is I am also not a Socialist. Socialism doesn't work and variations on the Socialism theme have killed too many innocent people to trust it.
The religion-politics thing comes up again with "Social-Conservatives" this seems to be the new code word for "Right Wing Ultra Christian" now. As I allude in my tirades against Islam, I have no desire to live under a theocracy!
Not a single God has come forth to me with a revelation that convinces me that they are the one true God and that I should adhere to Their decrees. And according to the Holy Books of many of them, God made me this way, knows what it would take to get me on the team and doesn't. With that logic in place, the best I can come up with, IF the Christians are correct, is that God wants me this way for some inscrutable God reason. Who am I to thwart the Will Of God by believing?
The Republicans who cuddle up to the religious right piss me off. And it's not just them, show me a President who didn't do the Sunday church thing. Even Clinton did church on Sunday. Devout Christians don't let (or order) interns give them hummers under their desks, so...
The religious right wants to take away choices from me. For all I know, sucking cock and taking it up the ass is glorious fun. I don't know because I'm not gay. My gay friends just call it, "sex". Wanna bet it's not really all that different from the hetero experience? One huge difference though, can't "go forth and multiply" doing strictly gay sex. I'm betting this is the core of the issue. And the Leviticus warning about men and boys is about pederasty, not homosexuals. Read your book! I'm nearly an atheist and I have.
Religion is also how we got sin taxes and it's certainly what got Prohibition rolling. Try to remember that there were people trying to get tobacco banned long before we knew much about the harmful effects. But it's WRONG, people enjoy it and we are forbidden it by our imaginary friend so it must be made illegal!
Just A Whisper
I have a bunch of old WW2 propaganda songs and radio spots. Really fun stuff.
My favorite though is one where the announcer is talking about how we're gearing up the war machine to fight. He names some production numbers like, "Thousands of rounds of ammunition..." and a second guy, almost in the background, says, "Just a whisper, wait until we shout!"
That's still true today! On Dec 8th, 1941 we started converting our economy to war production. For the next four years we almost nothing that couldn't be used to fight. The things that weren't weapons were mostly so that the factory workers could continue to get to work. The debts incurred were massive.
The military we have today with less than 5% GDP spent on it would kick our 95% GDP WW2 military's ass!
We Americans are a disunited mess. We fight among ourselves over things great and small and care not one whit about the rest of the world, unless the world insists we pay attention. Usually it's over something like the price of gas or how many Japanese cars we buy.
September 11, 2001 was something that, briefly, got us united. We quickly reverted to squabbling. GW Bush is no FDR, and by that I mean he didn't/doesn't get us motivated to face the foe and chase him wherever he hides, regardless of who it is and where.
Another 9-11 will get us fired up. Especially if some terrorist pops a nuke. We aren't going to want nuance, we will want BLOOD. We will want glorious retribution and pity the poor sap that stands betwixt us and those we hunt.
The US military at less than 5% GDP can take (if we skip nukes) all the rest of the world all ganged up on us. How long would a war really last if we plunked the whole economy into it? That's $12.31 TRILLION USD kids. ONE THIRD OF THE WORLD'S COMBINED ECONOMY. Just barely 5% of the world's population too.
When making comparisons between WW2 and GWOT be sure to recall we were all in on WW2. We were yelling at the top of our voices, now we've barely cleared our throats.
My favorite though is one where the announcer is talking about how we're gearing up the war machine to fight. He names some production numbers like, "Thousands of rounds of ammunition..." and a second guy, almost in the background, says, "Just a whisper, wait until we shout!"
That's still true today! On Dec 8th, 1941 we started converting our economy to war production. For the next four years we almost nothing that couldn't be used to fight. The things that weren't weapons were mostly so that the factory workers could continue to get to work. The debts incurred were massive.
The military we have today with less than 5% GDP spent on it would kick our 95% GDP WW2 military's ass!
We Americans are a disunited mess. We fight among ourselves over things great and small and care not one whit about the rest of the world, unless the world insists we pay attention. Usually it's over something like the price of gas or how many Japanese cars we buy.
September 11, 2001 was something that, briefly, got us united. We quickly reverted to squabbling. GW Bush is no FDR, and by that I mean he didn't/doesn't get us motivated to face the foe and chase him wherever he hides, regardless of who it is and where.
Another 9-11 will get us fired up. Especially if some terrorist pops a nuke. We aren't going to want nuance, we will want BLOOD. We will want glorious retribution and pity the poor sap that stands betwixt us and those we hunt.
The US military at less than 5% GDP can take (if we skip nukes) all the rest of the world all ganged up on us. How long would a war really last if we plunked the whole economy into it? That's $12.31 TRILLION USD kids. ONE THIRD OF THE WORLD'S COMBINED ECONOMY. Just barely 5% of the world's population too.
When making comparisons between WW2 and GWOT be sure to recall we were all in on WW2. We were yelling at the top of our voices, now we've barely cleared our throats.
17 December 2006
Something A Bit Lighter In Mood
http://www.asecular.com/%7Escott/misc/toilet.htm
I used those things in Germany more than once. I still wonder why they are made the way they are.
I used those things in Germany more than once. I still wonder why they are made the way they are.
Hopping Mad
I am fucking pissed!
We got our notice that our escrow account for the house insurance is short $1,600. We have to shit that before 01Feb07 or our house payment goes up $200 a month.
This is because insurers have discovered, via Katrina, that when something bad happens to the insured while the policy is in effect they have to pay. They are bailing out of Florida like rats off a sinking ship. There is only one insurer left, Citizen's. They are State Funded and can't refuse to write policies.
Once again the potential for something is being used as an excuse to stop doing something else.
And they keep telling us, over and over, that it was the cash outlays from Katrina that made them decide to no longer offer coverage here. Gee, yet again I am paying for someone else's fucking problem!
Why am I touchy about this?
I dunno. Could it be that I believe that one should only be punished for the bad things that one does and should not be held accountable for the actions of others?
And I am not talking about the Katrina victims right now. What happened to the requirement that an insurance company had to have assets enough to cover all their liabilities? And what happened to my friend's $120,000 in premiums since 1950 on his house? Could it be that having that much money laying about was too tempting to leave alone so they gave a huge chunk to Congress to get the laws changed to benefit only the insurance industry? It's especially galling because insurance is the only industry exempt from anti-trust. Look it up. They are also the only industry that I am required by law to purchase from. I cannot have a car or a mortgage without paying insurance. And now I am informed that they can just stop selling because they might have to uphold their end of the agreement? It's just wrong. It's like a life insurance company dumping you because you get sick or, worse, health insurers dumping because there was a bird flu epidemic in another part of the country.
And let's talk about the Katrina victims for a second. I read all about what happened to New Orleans three years before the storm hit. National Geographic had a detailed "what if" article. Gobs of money went into New Orleans to fix the things that needed fixing, Federal money. It wasn't spent on the things that it was meant for and somehow it's MY fault things broke? I don't control the weather and I didn't misappropriate the dike money. So, residents of Lake New Orleans, fuck off! I already paid for the levy that broke, you bought toys instead of shelter and I don't feel I owe you a penny more.
I have the same lack of sympathy for those who got nailed in the 1993 floods in the midwest. Surveys dating back to the 1800's point out every single place that flooded as FLOOD PLAINS! What part of FLOOD was so damned hard to understand? I have even less sympathy for people who didn't take the hint and got nailed again in 1996.
Don't get me wrong, if the risk increases so should the premium. And the premiums should keep pace with the value of the property. I have no problem about paying those. But the premiums should be going to some box labeled with my name. And the majority of it should return to me or be transferred to a new insurer if the writer gets cold feet and bails. Any insurance policy should become vested.
What we have now was the insurance companies having less than total ability to pay their liability and essentially borrowing from Peter (me) to pay Paul (New Orleans). Now they worry that I will get hit and they will not be able to borrow from Paul to pay Peter.
We got our notice that our escrow account for the house insurance is short $1,600. We have to shit that before 01Feb07 or our house payment goes up $200 a month.
This is because insurers have discovered, via Katrina, that when something bad happens to the insured while the policy is in effect they have to pay. They are bailing out of Florida like rats off a sinking ship. There is only one insurer left, Citizen's. They are State Funded and can't refuse to write policies.
Once again the potential for something is being used as an excuse to stop doing something else.
And they keep telling us, over and over, that it was the cash outlays from Katrina that made them decide to no longer offer coverage here. Gee, yet again I am paying for someone else's fucking problem!
Why am I touchy about this?
I dunno. Could it be that I believe that one should only be punished for the bad things that one does and should not be held accountable for the actions of others?
And I am not talking about the Katrina victims right now. What happened to the requirement that an insurance company had to have assets enough to cover all their liabilities? And what happened to my friend's $120,000 in premiums since 1950 on his house? Could it be that having that much money laying about was too tempting to leave alone so they gave a huge chunk to Congress to get the laws changed to benefit only the insurance industry? It's especially galling because insurance is the only industry exempt from anti-trust. Look it up. They are also the only industry that I am required by law to purchase from. I cannot have a car or a mortgage without paying insurance. And now I am informed that they can just stop selling because they might have to uphold their end of the agreement? It's just wrong. It's like a life insurance company dumping you because you get sick or, worse, health insurers dumping because there was a bird flu epidemic in another part of the country.
And let's talk about the Katrina victims for a second. I read all about what happened to New Orleans three years before the storm hit. National Geographic had a detailed "what if" article. Gobs of money went into New Orleans to fix the things that needed fixing, Federal money. It wasn't spent on the things that it was meant for and somehow it's MY fault things broke? I don't control the weather and I didn't misappropriate the dike money. So, residents of Lake New Orleans, fuck off! I already paid for the levy that broke, you bought toys instead of shelter and I don't feel I owe you a penny more.
I have the same lack of sympathy for those who got nailed in the 1993 floods in the midwest. Surveys dating back to the 1800's point out every single place that flooded as FLOOD PLAINS! What part of FLOOD was so damned hard to understand? I have even less sympathy for people who didn't take the hint and got nailed again in 1996.
Don't get me wrong, if the risk increases so should the premium. And the premiums should keep pace with the value of the property. I have no problem about paying those. But the premiums should be going to some box labeled with my name. And the majority of it should return to me or be transferred to a new insurer if the writer gets cold feet and bails. Any insurance policy should become vested.
What we have now was the insurance companies having less than total ability to pay their liability and essentially borrowing from Peter (me) to pay Paul (New Orleans). Now they worry that I will get hit and they will not be able to borrow from Paul to pay Peter.
11 December 2006
Surely, The Best Of Times
I entered Basic Training in the Army on 09SEP87. I did not know it then, but that was about the best time ever to do so.
I signed up as a tank crewman (19K) for the M1 Abrams. But because of when I went in, we got trained with the M60A3, M1 and M1A1. The Army didn't know where we were going to end up so they wanted to cover all the bases. Some of us were going to be sent to units getting ready to transition to the Abrams, so we needed to know how to crew the M60 until then. There were a lot of 105mm M1's in the inventory so we needed to know how to operate and maintain them. And the M1A1 was just starting to hit service, so on the off chance we got sent to a premier unit we needed to know what was different on the 120mm gun and NBC system. We got to spend extra time in the motor pool, extra time at the range and less time on the marching quad. Win win.
This odd cross pollination applied to other things too. The M60's commander's gun was a .50 BMG, M85. The Abrams uses an M2HB. Totally different guns. Then we got to train with both the M1911A1 and M9 pistols. And since sixty units were equipped with M3A1 submachineguns and Abrams units were equipped with M16A2s we got to go shoot both.
Gun geek heaven!
To think, at the time I complained with everyone else that it was cold and I was hungry, but it really was one of the funnest times of my life. Only now that I have the mundane to compare it to do I realize how much I was enjoying myself.
Of course, hindsight also tells me how miserable I was in my line unit. I'll take the mundane life I have over SFC Hinkel any day!
I signed up as a tank crewman (19K) for the M1 Abrams. But because of when I went in, we got trained with the M60A3, M1 and M1A1. The Army didn't know where we were going to end up so they wanted to cover all the bases. Some of us were going to be sent to units getting ready to transition to the Abrams, so we needed to know how to crew the M60 until then. There were a lot of 105mm M1's in the inventory so we needed to know how to operate and maintain them. And the M1A1 was just starting to hit service, so on the off chance we got sent to a premier unit we needed to know what was different on the 120mm gun and NBC system. We got to spend extra time in the motor pool, extra time at the range and less time on the marching quad. Win win.
This odd cross pollination applied to other things too. The M60's commander's gun was a .50 BMG, M85. The Abrams uses an M2HB. Totally different guns. Then we got to train with both the M1911A1 and M9 pistols. And since sixty units were equipped with M3A1 submachineguns and Abrams units were equipped with M16A2s we got to go shoot both.
Gun geek heaven!
To think, at the time I complained with everyone else that it was cold and I was hungry, but it really was one of the funnest times of my life. Only now that I have the mundane to compare it to do I realize how much I was enjoying myself.
Of course, hindsight also tells me how miserable I was in my line unit. I'll take the mundane life I have over SFC Hinkel any day!
07 December 2006
12 MILLION Get Citizenship For Breaking The Law?
OK, when do us gun owners get ours?
I wanna see a blanket amnesty that overrides all state laws that will let us have any gun. ANY gun.
That would include a pistol grip in California. Unregistered .22 in Massachusetts. Machinegun in Iowa. Mortar in Florida. And so on.
I wanna see a blanket amnesty that overrides all state laws that will let us have any gun. ANY gun.
That would include a pistol grip in California. Unregistered .22 in Massachusetts. Machinegun in Iowa. Mortar in Florida. And so on.
Pearl Harbor Day
Hat's off!
Today, 65 years ago, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, killing nearly 2400 men.
This brilliant attack sealed Japan's doom.
Would that we could harness that rage again...
Today, 65 years ago, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, killing nearly 2400 men.
This brilliant attack sealed Japan's doom.
Would that we could harness that rage again...
06 December 2006
Quote Of The Random Interval
An enemy of liberty is no friend of mine. I do not owe respect to anyone who would enslave me by government force, nor is it wise for such a person to expect it. — Isaiah Amberay
03 December 2006
Babs, Di? Suck My Rock Hard Throbbing Choad
The Springfield M-1911 A1 USGI shoots lovely!
The same cannot be said for the aftermarket magazines I bought at the gun show. BOTH of them dropped their floor plates after just a few shots. And the M-1911 mags don't normally have removable floor plates.
That really peeves me, something that simple shouldn't be hard to make. I will try calling the show vendor tomorrow and see if he will offer a replacement set.
Got a conceal carry holster coming. It's amazing how much cheaper and how many more styles there are for the 1911 than my Glock 21. The best one I could find for the Glock was Galco's Summer Comfort model. That same model is available for the 1911 and many more. Bianchi makes lots. Nearly every custom shop too. Kinda nice having a popular gun for a change.
Got two magazines from the same maker as the gun coming too.
And by the way, Fuck you and curses to everyone on this list: (Sorry Michele Evermore, your bestest buddy is on it). Bonus points to the commenter who can tell me what this list is.
Akaka (D-HI)
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The same cannot be said for the aftermarket magazines I bought at the gun show. BOTH of them dropped their floor plates after just a few shots. And the M-1911 mags don't normally have removable floor plates.
That really peeves me, something that simple shouldn't be hard to make. I will try calling the show vendor tomorrow and see if he will offer a replacement set.
Got a conceal carry holster coming. It's amazing how much cheaper and how many more styles there are for the 1911 than my Glock 21. The best one I could find for the Glock was Galco's Summer Comfort model. That same model is available for the 1911 and many more. Bianchi makes lots. Nearly every custom shop too. Kinda nice having a popular gun for a change.
Got two magazines from the same maker as the gun coming too.
And by the way, Fuck you and curses to everyone on this list: (Sorry Michele Evermore, your bestest buddy is on it). Bonus points to the commenter who can tell me what this list is.
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Boren (D-OK)
Boxer (D-CA)
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Comments:
3rd-Dec-2006 10:28 pm (local)
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The people that voted for the Assault Weapons ban?
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ravenclaw_eric
4th-Dec-2006 01:47 am (local)
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Close, but no cigar. Although I think that roll call vote is eerily similar to this one.
Hint, I just got a Handgun. It's of a caliber I can Control. Into my collection, it is Incorporated. | |
4th-Dec-2006 02:13 pm (local)
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Oh-kay...I'd say it's senators and representatives who have gone on record as supportive of Handgun Control, Incorporated.
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4th-Dec-2006 02:20 pm (local)
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It's the Yea votes for the Brady Bill.
It's this sort of list that puts most at odds with Michele Evermore. She worked in Harkin's office. Hearing about the good stuff he does was so like hearing about someone's friend who's a child molester, but donates half his paycheck to charity. The charity part is nice, but I want him to stop molesting children and be punished for it. The really funny thing is I would have continued to ignore politics if the dumbasses hadn't passed Brady. Now I have a political opinion, position and philosophy. Good work. |