tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406088964942152547.post5774402169017155316..comments2024-03-29T11:18:28.160-04:00Comments on The Abode of McThag: ConnectionAngus McThaghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09295013525738248801noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406088964942152547.post-64363599950691383172021-10-29T16:09:14.351-04:002021-10-29T16:09:14.351-04:00Cthulu help anyone who had to answer to someone wi...Cthulu help anyone who had to answer to someone with an ego like his.<br />SofwareJanitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10511295863793065111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406088964942152547.post-24594763870924387942021-10-29T00:52:28.837-04:002021-10-29T00:52:28.837-04:00You can sure tell he's never had Command.You can sure tell he's never had Command.Angus McThaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09295013525738248801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406088964942152547.post-38250908117392742542021-10-28T19:24:44.767-04:002021-10-28T19:24:44.767-04:00I don't read Aesop, in fact I had to google to...I don't read Aesop, in fact I had to google to find his blog. I won't be looking back again. He certainly does like to hear himself blab. Overly grandiosely verbose and overwrought delivery. Sorry, but while the inept armorer is probably most directly to blame, his arguments on why Baldwin is completely legally and ethically blameless just don't quite fly. His insistence that people from the gun community are looking for more restrictions, let alone legislation, is also a straw man argument. I haven't seen anyone suggesting that the rules that the movie industry already has are insufficient. The problem is that pretty much all of them were broken. More rules wouldn't change anything, and I certainly haven't seen McThag or anyone else claim they would. I also don't buy Aesop's insistence that Baldwin doesn't have any responsibility at all for making sure his production followed the rules. Aesop wants to push that responsibility all down to subordinates, but at some point the people at the top are responsible for what their underlings do. And I have trouble believing that Baldwin was completely unaware of the rules, which means I believe that he knew that corners were being cut and probably he was the instigator for that.SofwareJanitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10511295863793065111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406088964942152547.post-85807499941978739992021-10-28T14:48:46.578-04:002021-10-28T14:48:46.578-04:00Another safety rule that was broken is that anyone...Another safety rule that was broken is that anyone like the directors that need to be near the camera are supposed to be behind a lexan shield. If they'd had that in place, chances are the director wouldn't have been hit at all and the assistant might not have been a fatality, and possibly not hit at all either. The thing is that there are multiple levels of safety rules and as far as I can tell due to Baldwin's corner cutting they violated all of them. If even one of them had been followed the incident may not have happened or at least not been so serious.<br />SofwareJanitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10511295863793065111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406088964942152547.post-62027306762119311092021-10-27T20:05:53.245-04:002021-10-27T20:05:53.245-04:00I'm sorry that Google's Blogger team ate y...I'm sorry that Google's Blogger team ate your comment.<br /><br />I tend to discount Aesop because we've all died from Ebola and Covid already... except we didn't.<br /><br />When we didn't, suddenly he'd been telling us all along that we wouldn't.<br /><br />So I am waiting for the change to, "Alec Baldwin is a murderer because he violated the 4 rules, and I've said so all along!"<br /><br />His abrasiveness and the walls of text just make it that much easier to only pass his comments on when he's got his shit in one sock and making a well reasoned and well supported argument. He's got several comments disagreeing with me under those circumstances.<br /><br />Too often though, his comments are just lorem ipsuming.Angus McThaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09295013525738248801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406088964942152547.post-19707262329269957082021-10-27T17:44:10.119-04:002021-10-27T17:44:10.119-04:00Your blog ate my comment at the preview section. T...Your blog ate my comment at the preview section. The short version is that it's not that Aesop's position is necessarily galling. It's entirely reasonable, but not as infallible as his internet dick-waggling would have his fanbois believe. Nah, it's his delivery. I enjoy creative invective and insults as much as anyone, but if you're going to lay it on that insufferably thick, it gets tedious reading tired old recycled barbs. It makes any intelligent discussion not just impossible, but boring.GMayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12231225580249665221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406088964942152547.post-39408475369884335662021-10-26T07:33:44.729-04:002021-10-26T07:33:44.729-04:00I think blogger Paw Paw correctly assessed the sit...I think blogger Paw Paw correctly assessed the situation yesterday. Since the gun was a single action revolver AND this was a rehersal, not actually filmed, removing the cylinder entirely and reinserting the pin would have allowed the handgun to be fully functional, cocked and trigger pulling allowed. All the while entirely being completely safe from firing a bullet.<br /><br />jrgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406088964942152547.post-24540043456433157382021-10-25T21:29:27.379-04:002021-10-25T21:29:27.379-04:00I need to amend here, the wounded director has att...I need to amend here, the wounded director has attested that the armorer was on set. I'd read earlier that she wasn't. Mea Culpa.Angus McThaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09295013525738248801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406088964942152547.post-81861380229610589272021-10-25T21:01:11.033-04:002021-10-25T21:01:11.033-04:00Ayup. As I said before, if they're that stupi...Ayup. As I said before, if they're that stupid, then when they do bad things they should be put down like the rabid dogs they are. <br /><br />Plenty of people can handle gun safety. Why should a small number get away with violating all aspects just because they are 'better than us' and 'hollyweird elite?'<br /><br />And for someone who rails at us daily for being too stupid to understand masking or shots or quarantine (all of which involve subjects much more deep than 'Don't point a gun at something you don't want to destroy') Mr. Greek-Philosopher-Guy sure seems to cover for people too stupid to safely open a yogurt container.Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406088964942152547.post-28175114270210920592021-10-25T20:29:59.449-04:002021-10-25T20:29:59.449-04:00I think that the union crew doing a walk-out was i...I think that the union crew doing a walk-out was indicative that when they, rightfully, called safety violations they were overruled by production (same person who shot someone).<br /><br />Diabolical Canadian James Cameron had a little primer about teaching actors real guns for Terminator 2 that had a statement to the effect of, "we're out here in the desert a long way from the set with real guns..." which implied that he knew that live ammo and prop guns don't mix.<br /><br />The armorer, in this case, wasn't even on set when this happened! !!!!!<br /><br />What I wanna know now is why the fuck didn't person who's supposed to have sole control of the firearms and ammunition on set didn't store said items so unauthorized access wasn't happening when they weren't present.<br /><br />I fear that you've nailed the issue in the 10 ring with "I am God!" and that will land back at Mr Baldwin's feet.Angus McThaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09295013525738248801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406088964942152547.post-63290300889930173842021-10-25T19:35:18.292-04:002021-10-25T19:35:18.292-04:00I am pretty sure that the problem is "persona...I am pretty sure that the problem is "personal". Who do you think on that set had the power and arrogance to bully the young "armorer" into allowing a "house" gun out of her control and to be used with live ammunition? I don't think that training or a license will help with an "I am God" attitude running the show. "Safety" was already an issue and part of why part of the crew walked. If the trigger-puller is prosecuted, it will go a long way toward ensuring a competent and useful armorer. In this case, it was trivial for an intelligent person to visually scan a "Cold" pistol and see a problem with the ammunition. ["Cold" means "None" so any Brass {cartridge rims or caps, depending} means "problem"]. And then don't pull a trigger while pointing at others, unless there is a scripted, choreographed plan for doing so. If a firearm is called "Cold", there would be no problem with rotating a cylinder or "jacking" an action. [Many modern firearms have "closed" actions.] Still, "All guns are loaded, don't point". <br /><br />As has been pointed out elsewhere, an actor can't check every round in a magazine, but "Cold" is "None" which is a different situation. If "Cold", any "Brass" means a flag on the play. Probably any of the dogs who played "Lassie" could figure that out.<br /><br />My guess is that the pistol was used, on a whim, to train an actor who was gun-shy on how to make "realistic" moves. A well-organized set would have provided separate firearms and/or oportunities for training, etc. Grabbing a set gun for live-fire training broke safety control and distracted the young armorer. Small production with the financier/Producer on set. Guess who. If you "in charge", you face the "music". Mike-SMOnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406088964942152547.post-52015398474587163932021-10-25T15:09:48.528-04:002021-10-25T15:09:48.528-04:00As someone that admittedly had my own (thankfully ...As someone that admittedly had my own (thankfully harmless) negligent discharge in 1984, and was almost killed by someone else's five years later (that only did property damage), I speak from experience. It is very simple... if the gun is in your hands, all 4 Rules of Gun Safety apply to YOU, and ONLY YOU are responsible for everything that firearm is capable of until that firearm is given to someone else or otherwise secured. PERIOD! I don't buy any excuse for circumstances or procedures.Glypto Dropemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03567172318032611333noreply@blogger.com