FYI, the Tokarev is basically a copy of the 1911. The CZ-52 isn't. It fires the Tokarev round, but that is the only similarity between the 2 guns. The CZ-52 is more like a Beretta tha a Tokarev. Jonathan
I have a running joke about a VERY put upon Soviet arms standardization officer dealing with the Czechoslovakian military where I do, "See is same!" Then compare the AKM to the Vz-58 or PKM to the Vz.59; and so on.
I'd love to see some documentation of the P95 being issue. I never heard of Ruger getting any sort of pistol sales to the army.
I wonder if it was ad hoc like when our CO had us hit the rod and gun clubs for 9mm pistols for our trip to the Czech-German border when the spiffy new M9's we were supposed to be getting got withheld. We had turned in our 1911's and all the ammo and had drawn 9mm ammo... But no pistols.
I was toting a Glock 17 in my M9 holster for that. Later we used the M9 holster for our M9 pistols because the shoulder version of the M12 holster was teh suxxor.
Pics of Glock and Beretta in the M9 holster in this post: https://mcthag.blogspot.com/2020/12/m7-tanker-holster-is-universal-holster.html
The contract, or contracts were early oughts, Ruger press release from 2004 https://ruger.com/news/2004-12-23.html Contemporary articles seem to show a lot ended up as military aid to Iraq, and not actually issued to Army personnel.
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FYI, the Tokarev is basically a copy of the 1911. The CZ-52 isn't.
ReplyDeleteIt fires the Tokarev round, but that is the only similarity between the 2 guns. The CZ-52 is more like a Beretta tha a Tokarev.
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DeleteI have a running joke about a VERY put upon Soviet arms standardization officer dealing with the Czechoslovakian military where I do, "See is same!" Then compare the AKM to the Vz-58 or PKM to the Vz.59; and so on.
I haven't had to explain it for a while.
I would expect the P-95 to fit since it was briefly Army issue. It was also in your orbit since IIRC it was issued as a tank crew sidearm.
ReplyDeleteI'd love to see some documentation of the P95 being issue. I never heard of Ruger getting any sort of pistol sales to the army.
DeleteI wonder if it was ad hoc like when our CO had us hit the rod and gun clubs for 9mm pistols for our trip to the Czech-German border when the spiffy new M9's we were supposed to be getting got withheld. We had turned in our 1911's and all the ammo and had drawn 9mm ammo... But no pistols.
I was toting a Glock 17 in my M9 holster for that. Later we used the M9 holster for our M9 pistols because the shoulder version of the M12 holster was teh suxxor.
Pics of Glock and Beretta in the M9 holster in this post: https://mcthag.blogspot.com/2020/12/m7-tanker-holster-is-universal-holster.html
The contract, or contracts were early oughts, Ruger press release from 2004 https://ruger.com/news/2004-12-23.html
DeleteContemporary articles seem to show a lot ended up as military aid to Iraq, and not actually issued to Army personnel.
I knew the Iraqis had ended up with some. Thanks for the link.
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