Ruger Day

 

All Ruger, all .22LR brace on 10/22!

Just Like Grampa

The Sportsmaster only gets a decent cleaning once a decade.

It doesn't NEED cleaned like an arms room was taking it back.

I always do the bore after I get home, but most of the time let the mechanism get dirty.

And .22 rimfire always leaves a lot of gunk behind.

Did I Mention?

The Remington 341A Sportsmaster that Harvey was shooting was bought new by my mom's dad in 1938.

It's not the only gun he left me.  I got his pipe too!

Missing from the guns he left me is a .25 ACP pocket pistol.  We think that went to my uncle's family.

I wanted that gun, but I don't begrudge them it.

Every Woman A Riflewoman

After many years of strengthening and therapy, and no small amount of anxiety, Harvey has fired a long gun from the robo-shoulder!

My grampa's old rat-slayer still works great!

We ran it at 7 yards because she was familiar with that distance.

The JMB Collection

Braved the cold to show off the "Touched by JMB" collection.

L->R

Colt 1908 Pocket Hammerless (.380 ACP)

Colt 1908 Vest Pocket (.25 ACP)

FN 1905 Vest Pocket (.25ACP)

Colt Challenger (.22 LR)

Ithaca M1911A1 (.45 ACP)

Colt Gov't Model (.38 Super)

FN Hi-Power (9x19mm Parabellum)

Obligatory

Today is 10-22, so we post the obligatory 10-22.

Not A Woodsman

The tempo of things finally slowed down so that Harvey and I could hit the range.

She knocked the rust off and I tried something new with the Colt Woodsman Challenger.

9 circles?  9 cartridges?

Seems like an exercise pre-made!

I went as fast as I could, but that wasn't really fast.  Happy it went as well as it did.  Definitely have to do more of this.

Let's Go Poachin' Now

Everybody's learnin' how

C'mon and kill deer with me!

Will it GURPS?

The American Whitetail Hoofrat has 10 HP and no DR with a HT of 12.

.22LR from a rifle does 1d+2 pi-.

.22 Long from a rifle does 1d+1 pi-

.22 WMR from a rifle does 3d-1 pi-; but you'd use hollow points to get 3d-1(0.5) pi.

Aiming for the skull:

.22 LR will do 3-8 points of raw damage, 2 DR for the bone, 1-6 penetrates x4 for the brain hit: 4-24 points of damage.  The average roll will see 3 penetrate for 12 points of damage.  So a roll of 5 or 6 has a chance to kill it right there.

.22 Long will do 2-7 points of raw damage, 2 DR, 0-5 penetrates and 0-20 points of damage.  Average roll sees 2 penetrate for 8 points of damage.  You need to roll a 6 for a chance to kill.

.22 WMR will do 2-17 points of raw damage, double DR because hollow points, 0-13 penetrates for 0-52 points of damage.  The average roll of 10 will see 6 penetrate and do 24 points of damage.  Any roll of 9 or higher has a chance to kill.

Aiming for vitals.

.22 LR, same 3-8 raw damage, no DR, 3-8 penetrates x3 for the vitals hit: 9-24 points of damage.  Average roll will be 5 for 15 delivered.  Any roll of 7 or higher has a chance to kill.

.22 Long, same 2-7 raw damage, no DR, 2-7 penetrates, 6-21 points of damage.  Average roll will be 4 for 12 delivered.  Again, you need to roll max damage to get a chance of killing it.

.22 WMR, same 2-17 raw damage, 1-16 penetrates because no DR is 1 DR for hollow points, 3-48 points of damage.  Average will have 9 penetrate for 27 damage.  Any roll of 8 or higher has a chance to kill.

Aiming for the body:

.22 LR will get 3-8 points to penetrate, but small piercing is halved for 1-4 points of damage.

.22 Long will get 2-7 points to penetrate and get it halved to 1-3 points of damage.

.22 WMR will get 1-16 to penetrate for 1-16 points of damage.

Aiming for the eyes:

.22 LR will get 3-8 to penetrate because no skull DR on an eye hit for 12-32 points of damage.

.22 Long will get 2-7 to penetrate for 8-28 points of damage.

.22 WMR will get 1-16 to penetrate for 4-64 points of damage.

If the deer is wearing a bullet proof vest, no rimfire .22 can hurt it.

It could happen.

Why else do we need AR-15s for?

But a good shot and some luck with the damage shows that you can shoot a deer with a rimfire 22 and make it venison.

.22 LR

Another "Will It GURPS" adventure!

A rifle does 1d+2 pi- with 80/1,400 for range.

Pistols do 1d+1 pi- with 70/1,400 for range.

Because .22LR is light and cheap, I envisioned a character who used guns in this caliber in a post-apocalypse scenario.

Shot placement is what you're going to need with this round.

That means dropping some serious points into your Guns/TL Pistol and Rifle skill.

Since the skull is DR 2, a hit to the brain is handicapped from the get-go.

The rifle will get 1-6 penetrating and that gets 4-24 points of damage.  The pistol gets 0-5 penetrating and 0-20 points of damage.

Pretty much have to roll max damage to get a death roll.

On average you're getting 12 with the rifle and 8 with the pistol.  Don't count on the one-shot-stop.

Vitals doesn't have inherent DR...  plus they're +4 easier to hit!

The rifle will get 3-8 penetrating for 9 to 24 points of damage, with an average of 15.  Again, don't count on the one shot stop.

A pistol does 2-7 penetrating for 6-21 points and an average of 12.

Easy to get the target to start rolling to stay awake, but unlikely to get them dead right there.

But I thought that .22 WMR for the rifle might do better.

The ammo you can actually buy does 3d-1(0.5) pi.

To the skull that will do 0-13 penetrating for 0-52 damage (averaging 22).  Vitals will do 1-16 penetrating for 3-48 damage (averaging 25).

Far better.

Perhaps pack a 9mm handgun because it's common.

Also About The Ruger Standard

I decided it was time to clean the Ruger.

.22LR is extra dirty, and we had some malfunctions that were clearly from dirt.

The Ruger .22 handguns are legendary in being a pain in the ass to get back together, so people are reluctant to take them apart to clean.

I'm pretty deft at reassembly, so that doesn't dissuade me.

I'm lazy.

Plus, the thing runs fine when it's totally filthy.

So we have been.

Well, there's a limit and we hit it today.

And the powder residue gets EVERYWHERE inside the thing.

It's clean now, but I might wanna rethink my cleaning schedule just to make the job a bit easier.

Appreciation

Grampa's old rat slayer is apparently valuable now.

It's a '39 made Remington 341 in .22.  Short, Long, Long Rifle?  No matter, just changes the number of shots in the tube.

I remember these things being cheap, nearly throw-away, priced.

Even without the sentimental value, I'd keep it because:

It still shoots really well.  Better than Harvey's much newer 10/22 even.

It baffles me that it's gone from being a tomato spike to a $300 rifle in the brief time I've owned it.

.22 Long Rifle v .25 ACP

Mr Harrel is at it again.

 

I've long maintained they are almost identical in terminal performance, but .25 is more reliable.

 

Remington .22's

My 341 Sportmaster is descendant from the Model 33 and this lineage keeps going all the way to the 5 hundred series guns.

The 33 is a single shot.

34 is a 33 that doesn't take-down, has a tube magazine and improvements to the action.

The 341 is essentially an improved 34 combining features with the model 41 single shot.

The 512 is an improved 341.

There's lots of other 3x, 4x, 34x and 5xx in this series too.

Single shots, detachable boxes, target sights, scope mounting provisions, different barrel profiles... etc.

First Off

If you have a question you really want answered, sign your comment so's that someone will see your question.

Next, don't abbreviate if you want a swift answer OYWNGACRFM.

It took me a bit to figure out that RST6 means Ruger Standard 6".

Good news!  I figured it out and I can happily declare that all pre-A100 guns take the same stocks regardless of barrel length.  Triple check that your Standard isn't an A100 before you order!

I got my nice walnut examples from Numrich.  At the time of posting, they still had no-logo walnut stocks for the Standard for about $32.  And some more expensive options too!

I posted when I did it back in 2013, but it seems unreasonable for everyone to remember that.  Especially since it took me near an hour to find the post and see that I did not link to the actual parts!

Alternate .22

Because I has very upset with Bill Ruger, both senior and junior, for a very long time I tended to avoid Ruger products.

That did not keep me from shooting rimfire!

 

The rifle is a 1938 made Remington 341A Sportsmaster that my grandfather on Mom's side bought new.

He was a hired farm-hand and got extra money shooting rats in corn cribs and silos in Missouri and Iowa.  It's one of three guns he left me when he died.

The damn thing is still a tack driver and will shoot .22 Short, .22 Long and .22 Long Rifle.

25 yards with all 15 rounds of .22LR!

I've talked about the Challenger recently, and I prefer it to the Ruger Standard by a wide margin.

But the Ruger Standard / Mark series is the gun to beat when you're making a .22 pistol, and the Colt was driven out of production by it!  Several objectively better guns were, in fact.

Ruger Day

Today is 10/22 with an extra 22 on the end.

So I am reusing an old picture of Harvey's 10/22 with an extra 22!

You DO have a Ruger .22 of some sort, don't you?

I think it's mandatory.

Being Silly

In an earlier post I joked about Kijiro Nambu copying Bill Ruger rather than the other way around.

Ruger certainly got more mileage from his version.

I'm quite fond of my 1957 made Standard.

It pairs well with Bill's other .22, perhaps the most successful design ever made.

Though the older (and for me cheaper) Challenger shoots better.

I've never had much use for .22LR.

It's just not something that grabbed me like it seemed to grab others.

It might have something to do with my getting into guns just as NATO was completing their transition to 5.56 and the end of The Cold War.

Surplus ammo seemed almost as cheap as .22 then.

10/22 Day

Here's a pic of my 10/22!

I don't actually own an example of the most ubiquitous .22 LR ever made.

The Lovely Harvey has one, but the idea is to post a pic of your own, so...

No I Don't Think I Will

I've done several stupid things just for content on this blog.

I, very briefly, considered taking my Ruger Standard all the way apart and taking a picture of the pieces lain out on the bench.

Then I came to my senses!

If you think that normal field stripping of that thing is a fiddly, irritating job... A complete strip is ten times worse.

Shooting The Chomps Collection

First out the chute:

CZ75 P-O1

Both magazines functioned flawlessly.

I was worried about shooting this one.  The people who like the CZ75 have a near religious-like devotion and a fervent need to convert you to the CZ way.

I did not feel the magic:

The trigger doubles a lot with my shooting style.  There's not a lot of signal that you're pulling against the sear before you go bang again.

Next up:

The Stoeger Cougar 8040.  It too was reliable for all time after eating two whole magazines of .40 S&W.

Everything I dislike about the Beretta 92, plus the snap of .40.  I couldn't get it to settle to where I was shooting smaller than I did.

Finally, there's a High Standard Sport King.

Legend has it that if you're not grouping small with a High Standard, it's you and not the gun.

I noticed a distinct flinch changing from the 9's to the High Standard that took me a couple of magazines to get over.  It is not reliable with nine rounds in the magazine, but does fine loaded to 8.

I think I prefer my Colt Challenger.  Sacrilege, I know!  At least the sights point to the center for me.