One of the reasons the right loses is we have a couple of issues that aren't related that are all "ours".
Abortion, Guns and Homosexuals.
Two of these things are religious issues and thus shouldn't be government issues because of the 1st Amendment.
Remember that one? It's right before the one we've memorized. Yeah...
What happens far too often when the gun people finally gang together and vote to preserve gun rights the other two factions march like they've got a mandate to impose their religiously derived moral codes on the rest of us.
Then there's a backlash.
And the gun grabbers get their power back.
Remember the contract with America? Remember how they promised to roll back Brady and the AWB?
I remember.
I notice that Brady is still law and I dare you to name a bill that repealed the AWB even if it didn't escape committee, because it damn sure never made the floor.
Christians, for goodness sake read your book! If abortion is murder, God has it covered and will be punishing the murderers. It's one of His jobs, He says so. You aren't supposed to force the sinners to be righteous, just to show them the way; they have to choose the path on their own. It's in The Book! Why is an atheist the one who knows that where you don't?
Also, the prohibition in the Bible about homosexuals reads far more like a prohibition on pederasty.
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Just to play devil's advocate:
ReplyDeleteIf there were a routine and legally permissible procedure for killing (for example) 1 year old children, under the premise that "they're not really people yet," would you be saying "God has it covered and will be punishing the murderers. It's one of His jobs, He says so. You aren't supposed to force the sinners to be righteous, just to show them the way", or would you be applauding their push to ban the act?
If they do truly believe that abortion is murder, then how and why is that different? Why should they simply stand aside in the face of institutionalized murder?
Why do they stand aside in the face of institutionalized murder?
ReplyDeleteI mentioned it back in my LJ days. If abortion is murder, they are ignoring a holocaust; or at least only offering token resistance to it.
The solution to the abortion nut is not with making illegal. It's upstream of the "oh shit I'm pregnant" moment. This is a place where churches ARE doing what they can.
I don't buy it Angus. No, the attacks on gun owners are a seperate issue and do not involve homosexuals or abortion. The scum that would deprive you of your second amendment rights will 'not go easy on you' if you embrace queers and abortion. They DO want your guns and they want ALL of them.
ReplyDeleteSecond - we equate intelligence with morality. Truth is there are some extremely intelligent people driving America off a fiscal cliff at top speed. Smart people do stupid things - and many smart people embrace the gay agenda when they shouldn't. I saw a news byte on a gay parade once. A faggot, with the build of a stick of Wrigley's chewing gum was clad in nothing but a diaper and waving a 6 ft. rubber dildo around and shreiking nonsense at the top of his lungs. Do you want to tell me that man was a rational adult and mentally healthy? Close by was a topless floppy titted old dyke that had another one on a leash. Is that kind of exhibitionism healthy and moral in your books? Now the people that let the queers out of the closet are trying to get the pedos and the trannies out too. I am not religious, I am not a knuckle dragging caveman - you cannot defend conduct like that with an intelligent argument. And don't feed me that anti-religion crap because I am as much an atheist as you. I am also conservative and I agree with abortion.
You are basically admonishing christians for their morals while you push yours. What makes you better than them?
No, we are NOT 'losing because of christians and religious bias'. We are losing because the liberalism is the creed of the lazy, the stupid, and the shiftless - and evil, intelligent men know how to capitalize on it. America is culturally and ethically ill. That is why you are going off the financial cliff - because you went off the moral cliff first. How can people who can't be responsible with their sex organs be responsible with money?
None of that was a cut against you and no offense meant...but this attack on Christianity is an attack on all of us with an IQ above freezing and a work ethic. Were I you I would keep my guns regardless of what the politicians decree. You are going to need them.
Use of slur invalidates your entire comment. Fuck you, go away don't come back.
DeleteThe point is there are people who would otherwise stand with us who vote Democrat because of gay rights and abortion.
As someone to whom at least one of those slurs applies, thank you, Angus.
DeleteTo anyone else who sees that comment, I would simply like to point out that "a news byte[sic] on a gay parade" is a horrible example of gays. The media is always going to focus on the most controversial or outrageous person in the event that they can, and gay pride parades are intended from the start to be "over the top"*, so what you'll see on the news are the very fringe elements. It's kind of like when they go to a gun show and focus on the guy selling WWII memorabilia in order to portray gun owners as fascist, jingoist nazis. Controversy generates ratings.
* Because they are the celebratory descendents of the "in your face" protests of past decades. Being deliberately controversial and offensive was the point, at the time, because being civilized and respectable got the story buried on page 36 behind the property sale notices where no one would see it.