Showing posts with label .22 Long. Show all posts
Showing posts with label .22 Long. Show all posts

27 December 2025

Just Like Grampa

The Sportsmaster only gets a decent cleaning once a decade.

It doesn't NEED cleaned like an arms room was taking it back.

I always do the bore after I get home, but most of the time let the mechanism get dirty.

And .22 rimfire always leaves a lot of gunk behind.

26 October 2023

Let's Go Poachin' Now

Everybody's learnin' how

C'mon and kill deer with me!

Will it GURPS?

The American Whitetail Hoofrat has 10 HP and no DR with a HT of 12.

.22LR from a rifle does 1d+2 pi-.

.22 Long from a rifle does 1d+1 pi-

.22 WMR from a rifle does 3d-1 pi-; but you'd use hollow points to get 3d-1(0.5) pi.

Aiming for the skull:

.22 LR will do 3-8 points of raw damage, 2 DR for the bone, 1-6 penetrates x4 for the brain hit: 4-24 points of damage.  The average roll will see 3 penetrate for 12 points of damage.  So a roll of 5 or 6 has a chance to kill it right there.

.22 Long will do 2-7 points of raw damage, 2 DR, 0-5 penetrates and 0-20 points of damage.  Average roll sees 2 penetrate for 8 points of damage.  You need to roll a 6 for a chance to kill.

.22 WMR will do 2-17 points of raw damage, double DR because hollow points, 0-13 penetrates for 0-52 points of damage.  The average roll of 10 will see 6 penetrate and do 24 points of damage.  Any roll of 9 or higher has a chance to kill.

Aiming for vitals.

.22 LR, same 3-8 raw damage, no DR, 3-8 penetrates x3 for the vitals hit: 9-24 points of damage.  Average roll will be 5 for 15 delivered.  Any roll of 7 or higher has a chance to kill.

.22 Long, same 2-7 raw damage, no DR, 2-7 penetrates, 6-21 points of damage.  Average roll will be 4 for 12 delivered.  Again, you need to roll max damage to get a chance of killing it.

.22 WMR, same 2-17 raw damage, 1-16 penetrates because no DR is 1 DR for hollow points, 3-48 points of damage.  Average will have 9 penetrate for 27 damage.  Any roll of 8 or higher has a chance to kill.

Aiming for the body:

.22 LR will get 3-8 points to penetrate, but small piercing is halved for 1-4 points of damage.

.22 Long will get 2-7 points to penetrate and get it halved to 1-3 points of damage.

.22 WMR will get 1-16 to penetrate for 1-16 points of damage.

Aiming for the eyes:

.22 LR will get 3-8 to penetrate because no skull DR on an eye hit for 12-32 points of damage.

.22 Long will get 2-7 to penetrate for 8-28 points of damage.

.22 WMR will get 1-16 to penetrate for 4-64 points of damage.

If the deer is wearing a bullet proof vest, no rimfire .22 can hurt it.

It could happen.

Why else do we need AR-15s for?

But a good shot and some luck with the damage shows that you can shoot a deer with a rimfire 22 and make it venison.

Boom Head Shot

Bella Twin used a .22 Long from a single shot Cooey Ace 1 to kill a record big grizzly bear.

That should be a 1d+1 pi- shot to the skull of the bear.

Grizzlies have 19 hit points.

This is not an easy shot.

The story says that she used her expert knowledge of the bear's anatomy to hit it where its skull was thinnest.

I don't have official rules for this, but I'd allow a roll against an appropriate skill to know of a place on an animal that bypasses the extra skull DR.

I'd also give it a penalty to hit similar to hitting the eye.

Max damage of 7 to the skull will become 20 damage done. 

That's enough to knock the bear unconscious, just barely, if it rolls poorly, and Bella Twin put another six in basically the same spot once it was down to make sure it stayed down.

This shoot will GURPS.

20 May 2023

Appreciation

Grampa's old rat slayer is apparently valuable now.


It's a '39 made Remington 341 in .22.  Short, Long, Long Rifle?  No matter, just changes the number of shots in the tube.

I remember these things being cheap, nearly throw-away, priced.

Even without the sentimental value, I'd keep it because:

It still shoots really well.  Better than Harvey's much newer 10/22 even.

It baffles me that it's gone from being a tomato spike to a $300 rifle in the brief time I've owned it.

25 October 2022

Remington .22's

My 341 Sportmaster is descendant from the Model 33 and this lineage keeps going all the way to the 5 hundred series guns.

The 33 is a single shot.

34 is a 33 that doesn't take-down, has a tube magazine and improvements to the action.

The 341 is essentially an improved 34 combining features with the model 41 single shot.

The 512 is an improved 341.

There's lots of other 3x, 4x, 34x and 5xx in this series too.

Single shots, detachable boxes, target sights, scope mounting provisions, different barrel profiles... etc.

15 October 2022

Triumphant Return

The Lovely Harvey made it to the range yesterday!

It was just 20 shots from the Colt Challenger, but it was something and her groups weren't atrocious.

All part of therapy!

She also expressed glee at the Challenger.  It's a damn fine example of what Colt used to be.

It's amazing what the budget Woodsman can do.

22 January 2019

More Same Caliber


Remington 341A Sportsmaster in .22 Short, Long and Long Rifle.  Grampa's vermin slayer from 1938.

Colt Challenger in .22 Long Rifle from 1953.

26 December 2018

Tubes

The stock I have been lovingly crafting butchering while I master checkering belongs to Marv's Sears Model 25.  This is a Sears Roebuck branded High-Standard Sport King semi-auto.

It uses a tube magazine.

My, inherited from my maternal grandfather, Remington 341A Sportsmaster bolt-action also feeds from a tube.

Something else these two guns have in common is their chambering, .22 Short, .22 Long and .22 Long-Rifle.

It's kind of neat how they can take rounds which are three different lengths and still be magazine fed.

I should have been more familiar with the concept because I also own pump shotguns.  They feed from tube magazines as well, and have no problems with different length shells.  Well, within limits.

The Remington 870 won't cycle the cute little 1-3/4" mini-shells.  The much older Winchester Model 12 Heavy Duck feeds them fine.  I've never had a 2-1/2" shell to test with, but both handle the common as dirt 2-3/4" and 3" rounds.

Marv's KSG cheerfully eats 1-3/4", 2-3/4" and 3" rounds as well.

What I don't think I've ever seen is a box magazine .22 which can handle the shorter versions of .22 LR.  It doesn't seem like it would be impossible, especially for a bolt action, but was it done?

What's also apparent is .22 Short and .22 Long stopped being popular enough for gun makers to bother with as .22 Long-Rifle supplanted them and reigned supreme.

28 August 2017

Rimshot


.22 is like artillery for Lego.

Short, Long, Long-Rifle and Winchester Magnum

25 August 2017

Reality Check

I like to double check the published GURPS numbers with real world measurements when I can.

My Remington 341's magazine capacity has been confirmed with .22 Short, .22 Long and .22 Long Rifle.

22, 17, and 15 respectively.

Damage slung...

22x 1d pi- gives a total damage on something unarmored of 22-66 points (38.5 avg).
17x 1d+1 pi- gives 17-51 points (38.25 avg).
15x 1d+2 pi- gives 15-60 points (41.25 avg).

The rounding and minimums make it non-linear.