Would It Be Better If They Was Pushed Outta Windows?

Mr Fleetwood opines, "Would they be deader if I'd used 9mm?"

The battle of the BTR-152 was conducted with 230gr .45 ACP ball ammo.

It's illustrative that shot placement matters and he actually struck below the rim of the helmet and into the base of the skull where the spine enters.

Even a fucking .22 LR will get the job done if you put your shot there.

.45 is certainly more than .22; so therefore adequate.  That establishes a range of hole size and 9mm is firmly in the middle here.

They would, in fact, not be any more pregnant dead if hit with any other round.

The start of this discussion was from Ian laying snail tracks for the Laugo Alien.

Does that $8,000 9mm lob the bullet better than a $600 Hi-Power?  Or a Glock?  Or an M&P 9?  Or a S&W 59?

Or does it propel a 9x19mm round in pretty much exactly the same way, at the same velocity, with an accuracy that's more related to the skill of the shooter than the inherent accuracy of the design?

It's the same conundrum I am dealing with carrying the Model 59.

It doesn't lob a round farther or harder than a Glock 45.  Or Glock 17.  Or M&P 9.  Or Sigma.  Or High Power.  Or Beretta M9.  Or Beretta M1951.  Or S&W 39...

Etc...

It boils down to if you shoot it well and are comfortable carrying it.

You won't learn that reading about 2,000 round endurance tests.

You might not learn it attending at multi-kilobuck class.

You might learn to tolerate a gun that doesn't fit you, but after such a training seminar, you're going to feel like you HAVE to keep using it, whether you like your pistol or not.

Ghost Guns

I don't object to DIY guns.

I've done one or two myself:

I know my motives for Andrea and Tonya.

Where else was I going to get a clone of my issue M16A2 down to the serial number or a GOOD clone of a Polish Tantal?

Lavender Linda was just for fun and to see if a resin lower was viable.  It is, sort of.

What I am marveling at is someone I know making a LOT of Polymer 80 pistols and 80% AR lowers and I don't get it.

Is it for the fun of making them?

Is it a thumb in the eye of the powers that be?

For me, it's not saving money because, being a veteran, I can get a Blue Label Glock for about the same price as making a P80 kit, but I get three magazines too.

I am curious, though.

Comments?

Technically...

How you get to the fight kind of defines your title.

Infantry walk.

Dragoons (aka mounted infantry, aka mechanized infantry) ride, then dismount to fight.

Cavalry fight mounted.

For most of the "Old West" era, the cavalry was really dragoons.  They rode to contact with the enemy then dismounted.

Some people get confused here because the infantry often traveled on mules for several of the big campaigns.  This doesn't make them dragoons because they dismount well before contact.  The same idea applies to motorized infantry, the trucks don't go far enough forward to take fire.  Trucks (and mules) cost money, they're not to be squandered!

Believe it or not, it has nothing to do with them using mules as mounts.

You can cavalry from a mule, you're just going to be slow and the mule will likely file a grievance and go on strike.  Army mules have an EXCELLENT union!

I Am Reminded Of The Sage Ron White

We had a shooting in Brandon today.

Except it wasn't the cops doing all the missing...

Heh Heh Heh Huh Huh Huh

 

Native VS Adapted TL8

 

On the top is a MecGar 17-round magazine for S&W 59 series pistols

On the bottom is a S&W 17-round magazine for S&W M&P 9 pistols.

The MecGar is just a little narrower and just a little longer.

The S&W is fatter because the polymer frame can have thinner walls than the metal plus stocks design of the Model 59 for the same grip width.  It is a TL8 magazine for a TL8 pistol.

The MecGar is a TL8 magazine for a TL7 pistol.

The difference in TL is sometimes vexxing.

2nd Generation Smiths are made firmly during TL8's time period.  But I tend to rule that they're still TL7 guns.  The third generation is a TL7 gun made with TL8 techniques.

Al Unser

I liked the Unsers.

Pity to see their like fade away.

Al has followed his brother to new track.

BUT BUT BUT NFA

Good to see that the National Firearms Act, especially 922(o), has ended all firearms related crime in Puerto Rico.

Click here for to view the serene peace of strict regulation of automatic arms.

With registration and background checks on private sales, you'd think there'd be no crime, especially with firearms.

Hardly A Barrel Full Anymore

Michael Nesmith has departed the coil mortal.

Just one Monkee remains.

The Monkees were a staple of my after school TV for years on the local UHF channel.

We thought it was delightfully new.

Our parents rolled their eyes at the 15 year old shows on syndication.

Come to think of it, my five year old mind really liked the Adam West Batman where my parents also rolled their eyes.

Putting My Finger On It

I think the S&W 59 carry experiment is the source of my contentment.

Despite being a 50 year old design, the only think it's giving up brand new polymer guns is a bit of weight.

That takes a lot of the shine off the newest things in the display case.

The various AR projects have gotten to polishing the cannonball level of moving the sliders around for weight and optics...

I am far from unarmed here.

As far as writing here goes, I feel like I'm repeating myself a lot.

You have to if you're going to scream into the tempest.

I'm still picking at my Sabers story and the research is enjoyable.

Astonishingly Contented

It's been a bit since I've even been in a gun shop.

The S&W 59 really marks the last obsession gun.

The BEBoG project wasn't an obsession, but an illustration that you can get a decent AR and optics for not a lot of coin.

The last gun acquired is a completion of a project that had languished for years.

I'm distinctly lacking in wants.

This is a strange feeling.

Don't get me wrong, I'd happily accept new guns to take pictures of and show off on the blog, but I'm presently without a pressing urge to get a particular one.

Data Recovery

Off site back-ups are important.

Marv is the keeper of that archive.

Things that you accumulate in small bits sure take a long time to propagate when you move them all at once.

Progress is ongoing.

Ask Me How We Can Tell This Wasn't Broward County

Busted before he even got out of his building.

The cops didn't wait for the shooter to stop shooting and get breakfast before moving on the perpetrator.

This Is Going To Be Taught In Law School

Law students will be taught using Alec Baldwin as the exemplar example of why you should order your client to shut the hell up while any case they're involved in is being litigated.

In the time since the fatal shooting of Halnya Hutchins he's gone from an ignorant dancing monkey to someone dropping suspiciously specific denials.

All by just not shutting up.

The more he talks, the more guilty he's sounding.

Not a good look for a jury, especially since he's blabbing in the public space.

Stupid Design For People Who Live There

Doing a rewatch of The Expanse in preparation for the sixth season.

Season 3 episode 2 has a moment where Prax cannot breath because the umbilical to ship's air gets disconnected because unsecured tools knock his hose off the bulkhead.

FFS, I don't even live in space, but I didn't have my systems set up like that.

Your vacc suit is always a stand alone, self sufficient system unless you deliberately do something fucking stupid.

The kind of deliberate stupid that spacers who live there don't do.

But then, I'm the GM who let FuzzyGeff's Hiver wrap up Warren's character in a vacc sleeping bag and not secure them to the deck only to have Warren get sucked out the cargo lock when FuzzyGeff opened it to space some hijackers.  His Hiver was, decidedly, NOT a spacer.

Not My Generation Not My Music

I'm borderline irritated scrolling past the gushing fangrrly squeals about that Peter Jackson Beatle doc.

While I can appreciate the impact they had on popular music, it was long before my time.

So was Elvis.

While they both had a great deal of influence on music, their direct influence was about spent by the time I could buy music.

And I didn't spend my money on The Beatles or Elvis.

Thus, I don't really care about a documentary about a band which had split up long before.  A split which took them five years to announce.

Elvis was dead (yes he was) before I started buying my own music.

What amuses me is that many of the artists I was into were contemporaries of both.

Much to my father's despair, I got into punk and not the blues.

Much to my mother's relief, I enjoyed country made before 1982.

Disco never bothered me, but I didn't buy any.

I was doing AC/DC, Metallica, Megadeth, Floyd, Muddy, Howling Wolf, Bach and Strauss in the late 80's.

Lately I'm doing everything.  Former friend Anglave referred to my music collection as "song whiplash" when it was set to random.

But not a single Beatles song except what's archived for The Boy from that movie Yesterday.

Unsettling is my discovery that I like some kinds of jazz.  A format I'd previously thought I hated, but I have discovered that I merely disliked a couple of popular forms of it.  Forms the Hipsters snootily told me I HAD to like if I were to like music at all.

I don't care for growl metal, but I increasingly appreciate metal in Swedish and Mexican Spanish.

What do you listen to?

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

Disney plans on rebooting Firefly.

The article speculates that it will be more family friendly.

I am sick to death of that shit!

I want science fiction for adults, dammit, not children.

That's why I love The Expanse.  It's for grown-ups.

ZZZZZORP!

The bake element in my oven decided to do some spontaneous disassembly.

Happily, I still had the element I removed back in January '18 when we debugged the switch.

Also, luckily, I'm pretty darned handy.

The price of a replacement is under $30 shipped.  Analog ovens are superior to digital in this regard.

That Would Explain Why There's More Canadian Snowbirds This Year Than Normal

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/no-jab-no-food-canadian-province-imposes-new-regulations-ban-unvaccinated-grocery-stores/

Florida is a nicer place than Canada under most circumstances, starving in Canada is much worse.

I just hope that they realize that they've moved to another country and vote accordingly when they naturalize in a few years.

Perhaps Unnecessary

I have entered what guns The Chomps Collection has loaned me into my bound book.

AFT is typically unclear about whether I should since ownership didn't change with possession.

They still belong to The Chomps Collection, and will be returned on demand.

It's just going to show the same person for acquisition and disposition and the same price.

Still Packing 1975

The Model 59 continues to do exactly what a more modern gun would do.

Collect lint from my armpit in its Miami Classic II.

It should be pointed out that it's been 100% reliable at the range so far with the TL8 17-rounders.

My experience is underscoring the idea that if you have a pistol suitable for carry, there's no reason to throw it away for an improvement in the margins.

On the downside, the sights are kinda hard to see sometimes, some white dots would be of great help.

I think I will paint the front sight with my glow-in-dark paint to give some contrast.

Under normal light, it's now a white front sight.  With a quick flash from a flashlight, it's the green seen above.

I'm carrying more than one light which will do, are you?

Pop Flare

Mr Fleetwood, please come to the white courtesy phone.

Oh Look Another RINO

Why won't the GOP fucking learn?

Looks like we're getting an anti-gun RINO senator for Pennsylvania.

Northern version of Suntan Charlie Christ.

He's running as a Republican because the Dem position is filled.

It's Like Ian Reads Technomad's Comments

 

I hope this helps!

Perhaps The Ultimate Fucked Around And Found Out

80 years ago Japan launched a very effective surprise attack on the US Navy base at Pearl Harbor.

It culminated to being the first nation to experience a nuclear attack just under four years later.

It MUST Be The Covid

This morning, about 9am, I started feeling really bad.

Dizzy and cold.

Called in The Lovely Harvey to take over The Boy and I wrapped up in two blankets almost convulsing from how cold I felt.  All while not exhibiting a fever that any thermometer could detect, though Harvey felt my forehead was warm.

I zonked out until 5pm soaked in sweat.

Got up, still not feeling 100%, ate, sucked down some fluids and promptly went back out until about 11pm.

Now I am sitting here doing the "your fever just broke" sweats and starting to feel more human.

I figure this MUST be Teh Wu Ping Cough Omnicon variant.

It has to be.

Nobody gets sick from anything else, right?

Forgot The Screenshot

Did you know that every revolver manufactured in or imported to the USA has a transfer bar or hammer block safety since 1915?

I read it on the internet.  It must be true.

Assuming they mean new made guns made just for import and not milsurps that come later...

Um.

No.

I can't find the Facebook post I commented on now either.

I want to say it was The Truth About Guns... But I can't find the post in question.  That means that even if it was TTAG's Facebook, I can't tell you if it was them or a commenter.

But it's patently untrue.

While most makers were changing over to such devices during the early 20th century, lots of legacy designs kept on with production for years without them.

Battarida Aziz

My UPS started blinking "dead battery" at me.

Easy swap...

Except for where I've placed it and keeping all the wires organized.

But, 'tis done.

Got the genuine APC approved back instead of individual batteries this time.

Eyes crossed that these last more than a year or so.

Plus 88

Today is the day that Prohibition ended, marking the termination of the Federal Government's attempts to meddle with what Americans put into their bodies...

Uh...

Not Sure This Helps

Nazi Germany managed to get The Holocaust in full swing using bolt action rifles what only held five rounds.

Such suffices against a populace which has virtually zero guns.

The panic caused among the Nazis by a few handguns in the Warsaw ghetto uprising is illustrative of how well Europe was disarmed.

I am thinking that if the government has far better rifles than a K.98k, so should the populace.

Just in case.

Australia opening up what looks so very much like a concentration camp says volumes about it.

OK, internment camp.

But I recall that until Wu Ping Cough, the left condemned the internment camps their own party put into place.

I also notice that the average Australian citizen has been as effectively disarmed as a late 1930's European.

I don't think we should emulate them.

Need I mention China or the Uyghurs?

Alec, Oh Alec

Mr Baldwin, if you were lowering the hammer, you had to have pulled the trigger.

I Just Realized

This is an old gaming story.

The second iteration of Angus The Magic User was with GURPS.

Since Angus was me transported to Carl Cross' dungeon world he knew what I knew.

Not long after doing enough adventuring and exploring to get some wealth, I decided that I needed a shootin' iron.

I knew, near enough, how a Walker Colt worked to explain how to make the parts and even many of the tools to make the tools.

So I commissioned one from the local dwarven artificer.

The next thing was powder.  Black powder didn't work in the dungeon.  Magic, don't you know?

So I embarked on alchemical research and learned to make a black powder analog.

Things went swimmingly until I tried shooting it in a no-mana zone.

Carl declared that the gun blew up in my hand.  How appropriate for a Walker, no?

I, of course, objected strenuously!

Carl explained that without magic around what was suppressing black powder stopped doing so, thus my charges were extra powerful in no-mana areas.

"Hold up!" I says, "I researched this.  I have a high skill level in alchemy and chemistry.  I would know why my powder analog works and what would happen if magic didn't work; thus I would know to not use the gun here."

Carl conceded and we re-ran the scenario.

But something else occurred to me recently.

I had the dwarf artificer use his best sword steel.  Original Walkers were cast iron.

My recreation might well have been strong enough to use even with the double charge that Carl said my loads were.

Hard Core Musical Instrument

 

I Didn't Want To Go That Bad

There's a gunshow at the Tampa fairgrounds this weekend.

The line to get in was being police directed and went up and over the hill...

Considering that we were only going to see if the crowds had thinned, we took this as a sign that they had not.

Still, it was a nice day to take a drive and grab some souless chain stir-fry from Ghengis Grill.

I Have A Pile Of Posts To Make

It suddenly occurs to me that I am lacking in write-ups of quite a few of the 1/4" bore pistols I have here.

Especially since a couple of them are quite unique in how they work.

I Don't Care About Gun Violence

What I care about is immoral violence, regardless of the instrumentality.

It doesn't matter what the murder weapon is, the murder is wrong.

It doesn't matter what I defend myself with, the defense is good.

It's not violence we need to fight, but immoral violence.

I Set My Mind In Motion

Remember when I set myself to liking my M16A4 clone?

I'm there.

She's heavy, but it's a nice mass.

5.56 didn't have a lot of recoil to begin with and 10.7 lb. (loaded, with optic and light) sure sucks a lot of it up.

I like the Primary Arms 5x scope and it makes small groups easy.

She points readily and is comfortable to shoot quickly, what's not to love?

If you have the means, I highly recommend you make your own.

Photography Is Sometimes Hard

 

I take a picture every year containing some alcohol, a firearm and some tobacco.

The alcohol is often beer and I often end up in a race to get everything all framed while there's still a head on the beer.

It looks better in the pic to have a head on the beer.

Next year will have a pipe for the tobacco.

That complicated things because I wanted to get a wisp of smoke too.

I don't think I succeeded, but you will have to wait until Jan 1, 2022 to see.

Roe V Wade

I've occasionally opined that Roe vs Wade was decided correctly on the wrong grounds.

The case was decided on a penumbra and emanation of the 4th Amendment for privacy.

I think it should have been decided on 9th and 10th grounds that no power was granted specifically to government to stop such things.

But I'm a strict Originalist about what the federal and state constitutions do and how they should work.

Even if what you're talking about is clearly evil, it cannot be made illegal until constitutional authority is given congress to make law.

So far, nobody has bothered.

No comments allowed on this topic.  Past experience has shown that people don't stay on topic and meander off into religious justifications for their pro-life stance.  A position which is forbidden by the 1st Amendment to impose on everyone else.

Externality

A connection I just made about some former friends who're liberals.

They would make sweeping declarations about people whom I resembled.

For instance, "The Tea Party is a racist organization."

I would ask, "How did you come to this conclusion?"

They would cite their favorite media source.

I would mention my attendance at a Tea Party event and how there was a strong minority representation in the crowd.

At this point dissonance occurs, but doesn't last long.

The favored media source is unimpeachable to them.  Data in conflict with this source is discarded.

I am constantly amazed that people who think of themselves as the party of science don't grasp the scientific concept of "account for all the data."

Of course, they can't make a falsifiable statement to save their lives either, and I'm thinking that they're going to have to in the near future.