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The cops spend far too much time during an active shooter event doing...
I don't know what, but it's not assaulting the perpetrator.
Upwards of 40 minutes after the shooter in Texas had stopped shooting and barricaded itself into classroom before some Border Patrol agents got their shit together and began an attack.
So, basically nothing has changed from Stoneman-Douglas?
While the cops are playing perimeter security, children are stuck in a gun-free victim zone being slaughtered.
By the way, I care WAY more for those kids lives than the life of any individual officer.
If you're going to dare to assume the mantle of hero, then those lives will matter to you more than your own as well. Save the kids or die trying, but don't stand around doing nothing until the shooter has stopped on their own.
AGAIN!
When will we learn?
"So basically nothing was learned from Columbine." There, fixed it for you.
ReplyDeleteAfter-action from Columbine determined that one officer coming in as soon as he/she/it got there could have saved a majority of the students. Just the act of pushing in will upset the criminals.
And most Law Enforcement Agencies have in their procedural manuals the order to move in as soon as someone shows up. Just like in Broward County's manuals.
One active officer (or good guy carrying a gun) could have saved people at Columbine, at the Pulse nightclub, at most street shootings in any city, at Stoneman-Douglas, at the Christmas Parade in Michigan and in Texas.
Survivors in Buffalo have said that Aaron Salter Jr. (who deserves to be remembered as a hero) opening up on the shooter is what gave them time to escape.
DeleteIt does occur that if Mr Salter had been able to pack some AP rounds, he'd have been able to stop the shooter rather than just distract him.
Another thing to blame gun-control for.
ALERRT is taught to most all LE currently...they even teach it at some basic police academies...i'm not going to condemn the police yet because there aren't enough "true" facts we know for sure, yet...under alerrt, yes, you bypass everyone and everything to hunt and eliminate the threat...kids bleeding out, an officer bleeding out, adults bleeding out...you should be laser focused on one thing, stopping the killer/s...this changes if they barricade themselves in a room/area with possible hostages...then it's hold up, get intel, come up with a plan...but, if shooting starts again, you have to go...in alerrt training, everyone is taught/told the first 1 or 2 in the room will probably take rounds...right now there isn't nearly enough, what i feel is honest reporting yet to know exactly what happened...the school and a pd will probably get their ass sued into oblivion if the current news is shown to be true...but a lot of the news is slanted right now so just give it time...it's easy to monday morning q-b this stuff...panzer guy
ReplyDeleteBut that's the thing. You send in your first cops to scout and hopefully shoot the turd and if said turd holes up in a fortified position then you set a perimeter, evacuate behind said perimeter, and wait for your SWAT hut-hut boys.
DeleteInstead, like in every 'mass shooting' since, well, the beginning, the law enforcement officers (whom have been entrusted by the citizenry to do policing of laws, like the laws against murder) sat on their figurative asses and did nothing because they are asses.
I am condemning the police. Whether the officers who didn't go in to 'protect and serve' or their commanders who didn't order them to go in and 'P&S.'
I worked at a law enforcement agency and everyone had to take a morality class on 'illegal actions and illegal orders.' Which was doing something wrong is bad, doing something based on a wrong order is bad. If the department's procedural manual had any mention of "First up goes in First" rule, then all involved, especially those who held others back, should be charged with accessory to murder, and being that Texas is a Felony Murder state, that means I support all involved in this fiasco being charged with first degree capital murder and, yes, being sent to death if a jury of reasonable people so determine it.
We've known from every after-action of every mass death event, from shootings and bombings to collapsing buildings and floods, that immediate response in small doses saves more lives than a huge response way after the event has reaped so many lives.
It's much like, well, The Golden Hour in a trauma situation. Doesn't matter how many nursed and doctors and drugs and rooms and machines-that-go-bing if the patient involved is dead before arriving at the hospital. Treatment of injuries by a few or even one or even oneself that allows the patient to arrive alive at the hospital is the preferred method.
One person with a fire extinguisher can often save more of a house if the fire extinguisher is applied relatively immediately rather than waiting for the very long time (in fire fighting, time does very much matter) for response by the local firefighters.
Quick response saves lives. Sitting on one's ass causes deaths. Simple as that.
I couldn't agree more. Even some of the news outlets (not just FOX) are questioning why this was let go so long. It's pretty obvious that quicker action would probably have saved a bunch of lives even if it might have cost a few LE lives to do it.
ReplyDeleteYou are so right.
ReplyDeleteI held onto my respect for police for a long time... the few bqd qpples didn't spoil the bunch.
No longer.
Seeibg the reqction in Canada to peaceful protests? This BS here? Nah, go phuk yourself asshole, done with your blue line bullshit. Earn the respect, Don't assume it. Police your own, and maybe, MAYBE I'll start giving a shit.