26 March 2023

Overreach

I think that the LGBTQ movement is suffering from the same problem with success that MADD had.

They'd won their war, but kept fighting.

Having won, they went on to demand ever more, and moved past what was reasonable.

The response to this sort if thing is, "you wanna be unreasonable?  I'll show you unreasonable, HOLD MY MOTHERFUCKING BEER!"

And we're going to be right back where we started forty years ago when the smoke clears; except there will be a memory of when "normal" people conceded to the reasonable arguments of the LGBTQ community only to watch it snowball into madness.

How did it go so wrong?

You dragged people's kids into it and made the cardinal mistake of psychological assessment.  Your personal experience is not universal.

You also aligned yourselves with pederasts.

The answers you're giving to reasonable questions from parents aren't convincing and sound evasive.

You sound like you you're supporting grooming a child to think that being molested is normal.

THAT is why you're seeing the negative response.

It could probably be salvaged, but most of your information is coming from liberal sources and not bothering to talk to conservatives who support your rights.

They would much rather run the cart over the cliff than admit that us filthy cisnormative folks have a point (or rights of our own for that matter).

Also, when you discuss being made into a second class citizen, you do realize that by asking for and receiving rights that cis people don't have has already made second class citizens of them.

I'm a radical.

I'm all for rights for everyone.

But the same rights for every person.

People's rights, not women's, men's, straight's, bent's, white's, black's, etc...

You don't have any more rights than I do, and you don't have any less than me.

I'll fight for that.

And that will segue into the nasty side of things.

It's something that commenters have talked about here when I defended trans people having rights the same as everyone else.

Being trans is an abnormality.  Any deviation from the norm is an abnormality, it's not a moral judgement.

It can be expressed as a mental disorder, but a non-debilitating and high-functioning one.

The reason you're getting such extreme pushback from the normies is the stated goal to impress this abnormality onto children in a manner outside parental control.

You started making moves to exclude parents from the rearing of their children.

Worse, the impression you're doing is, literally, conversion therapy!  With the conversion of someone who was naturally going to grow up straight being converted to trans.

I am sorry.  While I still support LGBTQ rights, this is where I get off the bus.

4 comments:

  1. Especially with the growing body of evidence that many of the youthful trans gendering is a form of Munchousen's by Proxy and when the now gender-swapped kid grows up, the realization that this isn't who they actually are hits hard and there's no going back and so suicide is increasingly becoming the norm amongst ex-children who were transitioned.

    Kids can't make a decision about guns, cars, booze, but can make a decision to have a lopitoffame or adadictomy? Yeah.

    Most straights I know support people having, as you said, exactly the same rights as everyone else. There is, as you said, a huge groundswell of frustration and anger against the radicals who are pushing the envelope.

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  2. I would be much more supportive of LGB rights if they (or their spokespeople) didn't have this attitude of "Oceania has ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia, so shut up, prole!" As far as "transgender" goes---what I think we have is a lot of very troubled, very suggestible people who're very likely to be seduced by this New Thing. Kind ol like "recovered memories"---remember those? I'm willing to bet that when "transgender" falls out of fashion, you're going to see some resounding lawsuits. Particularly people who actually went through the (permanently sterilizing) surgery and found that, not only did it not solve all their problems, but they now were on a rigorous medical regimen for the rest of their lives.

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  3. Hey Angus;

    I heard a term from one of the dancing monkeys in Hollywood, who's brother was an LBGTQ activist, who had gotten off the train, the comment was that the LGBTQ movement are "Sore Winners" and are pushing the envelope just because they can.

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  4. It was that movement coupled with the DEI one here that is provoking some fairly strong backlash... The more Nazi-like the DEI demands became, the fewer people were happy with it until we got to where we are currently reviewing proposed bills banning all things DEI on University campuses. I work on one, but in IT... In theory safe from that as we do tend to be far more a meritocracy than anything with IT folks having very little patience for hires/promotions for anything other than demonstrated ability... But getting DEI questions in interviews other places was a major red flag for me as I was escaping a place where I was informed I would be fired at earliest opportunity for being "white, male, former military and straight... The intersection of everything evil in the world" (Department head actually said that in a well attended meeting)... Which was weird for me being long time IT professional who ALWAYS went with the Army's "no politics on post" and frankly my politics are "just leave me alone and happy to do the same"... DID feel good pulling that chute and watching things implode after I left... Turns out, running off all of your competent staff and hiring based on "other" standards might not be a great idea...

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